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		<title>By: irieserver</title>
		<link>http://hintofsarcasm.com/2005/07/21/shitty-tipper-database/comment-page-1/#comment-58781</link>
		<dc:creator>irieserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought servers in Canada got paid around $8/hr.  Anyway, I see both sides of the tipping argument even though I&#039;m a server.  (and a damn good one)  However, accepting service and agreeing to tip for said service is part of the social contract that one enters into when they eat out.  Don&#039;t agree?  Don&#039;t go out to eat. it&#039;s simple.  I mean, if you dont want to tip then you shouldn&#039;t accept the service.  Tell your server when they come to greet you that you simply want them to take the order and enter it into the computer.  You&#039;ll go get the drinks from the bar, the food when its ready, extra sauces if you need them, refills, etc.  You&#039;ll flag her down when youre ready to pay and hopefully you have exact change cuz it may be a few minutes for her to get you change.   maybe if the cheap assholes who actually accept the service but don&#039;t pay for it started doing that, the industry would start paying us more.  Then the meals would be more expensive, though.  So it evens out.  AnywaY, \END RANT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought servers in Canada got paid around $8/hr.  Anyway, I see both sides of the tipping argument even though I&#8217;m a server.  (and a damn good one)  However, accepting service and agreeing to tip for said service is part of the social contract that one enters into when they eat out.  Don&#8217;t agree?  Don&#8217;t go out to eat. it&#8217;s simple.  I mean, if you dont want to tip then you shouldn&#8217;t accept the service.  Tell your server when they come to greet you that you simply want them to take the order and enter it into the computer.  You&#8217;ll go get the drinks from the bar, the food when its ready, extra sauces if you need them, refills, etc.  You&#8217;ll flag her down when youre ready to pay and hopefully you have exact change cuz it may be a few minutes for her to get you change.   maybe if the cheap assholes who actually accept the service but don&#8217;t pay for it started doing that, the industry would start paying us more.  Then the meals would be more expensive, though.  So it evens out.  AnywaY, \END RANT.</p>
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		<title>By: Ekove</title>
		<link>http://hintofsarcasm.com/2005/07/21/shitty-tipper-database/comment-page-1/#comment-58702</link>
		<dc:creator>Ekove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tipping is bullshit. Another fee made the consumers responsibility, I&#039;m tired of this bullshit. If we were supposed to tip, then it should be in the total fee. Tips are supposed to be gratuity, for something special, for extra service. If you&#039;re doing you&#039;re just doing your job, then it&#039;s not my responsibility to make sure you get your payment, and no, just being nice isn&#039;t something extra, it&#039;s doing your job.

I do tip waiters/waitress though, not more than 15%, but it&#039;s really only out of niceness. However this whole forced tips (or be considered an asshole) bullshit is getting out of hand. Now take out orders, delivery...etc also require a tip? fuck you...

The other day, I had a very convenient experience at a barber, and he refused to take my tip. Yet a delivery guy would start throwing in insulting lines if I tip him $2. I know many of them don&#039;t get paid enough and get tax&#039;ed by the gov, but hey, it ain&#039;t my fucking fault, get another job. Tips are no longer for something special or extra, they are there so the customers won&#039;t get treated like an asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tipping is bullshit. Another fee made the consumers responsibility, I&#8217;m tired of this bullshit. If we were supposed to tip, then it should be in the total fee. Tips are supposed to be gratuity, for something special, for extra service. If you&#8217;re doing you&#8217;re just doing your job, then it&#8217;s not my responsibility to make sure you get your payment, and no, just being nice isn&#8217;t something extra, it&#8217;s doing your job.</p>
<p>I do tip waiters/waitress though, not more than 15%, but it&#8217;s really only out of niceness. However this whole forced tips (or be considered an asshole) bullshit is getting out of hand. Now take out orders, delivery&#8230;etc also require a tip? fuck you&#8230;</p>
<p>The other day, I had a very convenient experience at a barber, and he refused to take my tip. Yet a delivery guy would start throwing in insulting lines if I tip him $2. I know many of them don&#8217;t get paid enough and get tax&#8217;ed by the gov, but hey, it ain&#8217;t my fucking fault, get another job. Tips are no longer for something special or extra, they are there so the customers won&#8217;t get treated like an asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: Biff</title>
		<link>http://hintofsarcasm.com/2005/07/21/shitty-tipper-database/comment-page-1/#comment-51578</link>
		<dc:creator>Biff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tipping should be banned!!!!!!!!!.. If a waiter/waitress is tipped even 15% of every bill, they would be making more then most college graduates. At a nice restaurant the bill can easily exceed $200 for 4 people. A waiter has 4 to 6 tables. Usually it takes about an hour to order and eat the meal. If a waiter has only 20 parties a night that would generate at 15%, $600 and at 20%,  $800. Not bad for someone that, with minimal training, can walk in off the street and display good manners while serving the diners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tipping should be banned!!!!!!!!!.. If a waiter/waitress is tipped even 15% of every bill, they would be making more then most college graduates. At a nice restaurant the bill can easily exceed $200 for 4 people. A waiter has 4 to 6 tables. Usually it takes about an hour to order and eat the meal. If a waiter has only 20 parties a night that would generate at 15%, $600 and at 20%,  $800. Not bad for someone that, with minimal training, can walk in off the street and display good manners while serving the diners.</p>
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		<title>By: Byron Watterson</title>
		<link>http://hintofsarcasm.com/2005/07/21/shitty-tipper-database/comment-page-1/#comment-49072</link>
		<dc:creator>Byron Watterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tipping is an antiquated custom that winds up irritating customers and servers alike.  Like doing your taxes each year, it&#039;s a waste of time and money.  They should be abolished.  Pay a reasonable wage to the servers, and pass the cost onto the meal.  Give us a single price, and skip the tip, service charges, etc.  Simplify the dining experience, which will make it more enjoyable for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tipping is an antiquated custom that winds up irritating customers and servers alike.  Like doing your taxes each year, it&#8217;s a waste of time and money.  They should be abolished.  Pay a reasonable wage to the servers, and pass the cost onto the meal.  Give us a single price, and skip the tip, service charges, etc.  Simplify the dining experience, which will make it more enjoyable for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So restaurants expect their clients to essentially pay a good part of their employees&#039; salaries (!) Whether the service was good or bad, the food exquisite or just stomach filler, the atmosphere classy or run-down ... right? After all, the waiter/waitress did do their job, so they deserve it (!?) How about restaurants start paying these people decent wages to begin with and maybe they&#039;ll end up with lower turover rates too among staff. Yeah, the restaurant business is tough and competitive but to those who can&#039;t take the heat, well, as the saying goes, get out of the kitchen, literally!

For most of us doing unpaid overtime and also busting our rears at sometimes crappy thankless jobs where tipe are only a dream, being forced to tip for a lousy evening out is the ultimate insult. Here in Montreal, our close to 14% federal and provincial tax bill added to a 15% tip amounts to almost a 30% surcharge on that food, which is fckng ridiculous! Too many restaurant meals today are formulaic crap anyway, everyone&#039;s in a rush to make a quick buck in this business as anywhere. There are precious few spots where you are treated like a special guest, too many are little more than overpriced glorified cafeterias.

To the poor waiters and waitresses out there, I know your plight, I used to be one too. Get a factory or retail job that pays at least minimum wage and don&#039;t expect your customers to subsidize the salary your cheap boss won&#039;t pay you. Things are as they are because you allow them to treat you like dirt. 

Many people don&#039;t tip, not because of the service, but because the food is often crap or the place dirty, or the music too loud or the darn place is cold and drafty or simply looks like a some kitsch nightmare from a bad 70s movie. So instead of giving you a 5% tip for your service out of the 15% you &quot;expect&quot; (ahheem) and insult you with this, people leave nada. 

Remember, eating out has to be an experience on ALL counts, your service is a big part of it but certainly not all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So restaurants expect their clients to essentially pay a good part of their employees&#8217; salaries (!) Whether the service was good or bad, the food exquisite or just stomach filler, the atmosphere classy or run-down &#8230; right? After all, the waiter/waitress did do their job, so they deserve it (!?) How about restaurants start paying these people decent wages to begin with and maybe they&#8217;ll end up with lower turover rates too among staff. Yeah, the restaurant business is tough and competitive but to those who can&#8217;t take the heat, well, as the saying goes, get out of the kitchen, literally!</p>
<p>For most of us doing unpaid overtime and also busting our rears at sometimes crappy thankless jobs where tipe are only a dream, being forced to tip for a lousy evening out is the ultimate insult. Here in Montreal, our close to 14% federal and provincial tax bill added to a 15% tip amounts to almost a 30% surcharge on that food, which is fckng ridiculous! Too many restaurant meals today are formulaic crap anyway, everyone&#8217;s in a rush to make a quick buck in this business as anywhere. There are precious few spots where you are treated like a special guest, too many are little more than overpriced glorified cafeterias.</p>
<p>To the poor waiters and waitresses out there, I know your plight, I used to be one too. Get a factory or retail job that pays at least minimum wage and don&#8217;t expect your customers to subsidize the salary your cheap boss won&#8217;t pay you. Things are as they are because you allow them to treat you like dirt. </p>
<p>Many people don&#8217;t tip, not because of the service, but because the food is often crap or the place dirty, or the music too loud or the darn place is cold and drafty or simply looks like a some kitsch nightmare from a bad 70s movie. So instead of giving you a 5% tip for your service out of the 15% you &#8220;expect&#8221; (ahheem) and insult you with this, people leave nada. </p>
<p>Remember, eating out has to be an experience on ALL counts, your service is a big part of it but certainly not all.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
		<link>http://hintofsarcasm.com/2005/07/21/shitty-tipper-database/comment-page-1/#comment-39969</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 02:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dead on - I&#039;m an Aussie too - and I noticed on a recent trip to the US (various large cities and smaller towns) that tipping was expected - regardless of good or bad service! 

The service I got there was certainly no better for what I get &quot;for free&quot; at home - In fact some was down right CRAP and it was done with such a &quot;fuck it - I can treat you like shit, but you have to tip me anyway&quot; attitude...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead on &#8211; I&#8217;m an Aussie too &#8211; and I noticed on a recent trip to the US (various large cities and smaller towns) that tipping was expected &#8211; regardless of good or bad service! </p>
<p>The service I got there was certainly no better for what I get &#8220;for free&#8221; at home &#8211; In fact some was down right CRAP and it was done with such a &#8220;fuck it &#8211; I can treat you like shit, but you have to tip me anyway&#8221; attitude&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: keir</title>
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		<dc:creator>keir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aussie I just have to say I don&#039;t get the whole tipping notion.

In this country 100 years ago minimum wage was set to a level that anybody could live of. You wouldn&#039;t have a great life but you would survive. 

Why can&#039;t they just do this in the states? Sure you would pay more straight up for food but at least you wouldn&#039;t have to worry about whether or not you had tipped enough</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aussie I just have to say I don&#8217;t get the whole tipping notion.</p>
<p>In this country 100 years ago minimum wage was set to a level that anybody could live of. You wouldn&#8217;t have a great life but you would survive. </p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t they just do this in the states? Sure you would pay more straight up for food but at least you wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about whether or not you had tipped enough</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 22:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will tell you as a waitress, that tips is the one thing we do rely on to live, because 2.13 an hour won&#039;t get anyone far.  But the major thing is unless you get shitty service, because most waitresses know when the mess up, then if you don&#039;t leave a tip, your face will be remembered and the next time you come in, they won&#039;t be too worried about providing you with their best service, because its not worth it, so you should always tip something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will tell you as a waitress, that tips is the one thing we do rely on to live, because 2.13 an hour won&#8217;t get anyone far.  But the major thing is unless you get shitty service, because most waitresses know when the mess up, then if you don&#8217;t leave a tip, your face will be remembered and the next time you come in, they won&#8217;t be too worried about providing you with their best service, because its not worth it, so you should always tip something.</p>
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