Comments on: Shitty tipper database

By: Les

Les — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:52:50 +0000

@Biff… You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. On an INSANELY busy double shift at the average restaurant most servers won’t ring more than $4,000. If you do get 20% off each table (highly unlikely), you still tip out 5% of your sales to the support staff (adding up to $200 for the aforementioned sales) and get charged a percentage off each credit card charge made (can make a HUGE difference between a mostly cash and most plastic night). Add in the taxes you pay off that income later and you come out with about $500 bones for a 15 hour shift.

And remember. That is with sales of $4000. Most days at the place I work we ring about $700 on a mildly crappy shift and $1700 on a good one. $2000 in sales is an exceptional shift (or a cocktail shift—- they make mad change). You have to break your back OPEN turning and burning and sweating your ass off on that kind of shift. When you tip 20% off your check your server is making about 14% off your check. Why is it such a trouble to just… tip?

I never had issues with this before I worked in the industry and only began to realize that some people DIDN’T do this when I started waiting tables. I’ve never understood it. Unless you get TERRIBLE service, what’s the harm? It’s your own opportunity to say “thanks” for someone literally kissing your ass for two hours.

But people are assholes. I can assure you, waitstaff can spot a bad tipper the second they walk in the door. They’re either rude from the beginning (y’know, as if they resent that they’re being FORCED to sit and have this irritating asshole ‘waiter’ person ask them questions and bring them food) or kind of nice but foreign. Newsflash: not everything works the way you may want it to, but by going out to eat you are taking part in the system you claim to disagree with, and the waitstaff shouldn’t have to suffer because you don’t think we deserve to be PAID to wipe your ass.

By: irieserver

irieserver — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:05:26 +0000

I thought servers in Canada got paid around $8/hr. Anyway, I see both sides of the tipping argument even though I’m a server. (and a damn good one) However, accepting service and agreeing to tip for said service is part of the social contract that one enters into when they eat out. Don’t agree? Don’t go out to eat. it’s simple. I mean, if you dont want to tip then you shouldn’t accept the service. Tell your server when they come to greet you that you simply want them to take the order and enter it into the computer. You’ll go get the drinks from the bar, the food when its ready, extra sauces if you need them, refills, etc. You’ll flag her down when youre ready to pay and hopefully you have exact change cuz it may be a few minutes for her to get you change. maybe if the cheap assholes who actually accept the service but don’t pay for it started doing that, the industry would start paying us more. Then the meals would be more expensive, though. So it evens out. AnywaY, \END RANT.

By: Ekove

Ekove — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:58:32 +0000

Tipping is bullshit. Another fee made the consumers responsibility, I’m tired of this bullshit. If we were supposed to tip, then it should be in the total fee. Tips are supposed to be gratuity, for something special, for extra service. If you’re doing you’re just doing your job, then it’s not my responsibility to make sure you get your payment, and no, just being nice isn’t something extra, it’s doing your job.

I do tip waiters/waitress though, not more than 15%, but it’s really only out of niceness. However this whole forced tips (or be considered an asshole) bullshit is getting out of hand. Now take out orders, delivery…etc also require a tip? fuck you…

The other day, I had a very convenient experience at a barber, and he refused to take my tip. Yet a delivery guy would start throwing in insulting lines if I tip him $2. I know many of them don’t get paid enough and get tax’ed by the gov, but hey, it ain’t my fucking fault, get another job. Tips are no longer for something special or extra, they are there so the customers won’t get treated like an asshole.

By: Biff

Biff — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:36:40 +0000

Tipping should be banned!!!!!!!!!.. If a waiter/waitress is tipped even 15% of every bill, they would be making more then most college graduates. At a nice restaurant the bill can easily exceed $200 for 4 people. A waiter has 4 to 6 tables. Usually it takes about an hour to order and eat the meal. If a waiter has only 20 parties a night that would generate at 15%, $600 and at 20%, $800. Not bad for someone that, with minimal training, can walk in off the street and display good manners while serving the diners.

By: Byron Watterson

Byron Watterson — Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:13:48 +0000

Tipping is an antiquated custom that winds up irritating customers and servers alike. Like doing your taxes each year, it’s a waste of time and money. They should be abolished. Pay a reasonable wage to the servers, and pass the cost onto the meal. Give us a single price, and skip the tip, service charges, etc. Simplify the dining experience, which will make it more enjoyable for everyone.

By: Jackie

Jackie — Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:25:57 +0000

So restaurants expect their clients to essentially pay a good part of their employees’ salaries (!) Whether the service was good or bad, the food exquisite or just stomach filler, the atmosphere classy or run-down … right? After all, the waiter/waitress did do their job, so they deserve it (!?) How about restaurants start paying these people decent wages to begin with and maybe they’ll end up with lower turover rates too among staff. Yeah, the restaurant business is tough and competitive but to those who can’t take the heat, well, as the saying goes, get out of the kitchen, literally!

For most of us doing unpaid overtime and also busting our rears at sometimes crappy thankless jobs where tipe are only a dream, being forced to tip for a lousy evening out is the ultimate insult. Here in Montreal, our close to 14% federal and provincial tax bill added to a 15% tip amounts to almost a 30% surcharge on that food, which is fckng ridiculous! Too many restaurant meals today are formulaic crap anyway, everyone’s in a rush to make a quick buck in this business as anywhere. There are precious few spots where you are treated like a special guest, too many are little more than overpriced glorified cafeterias.

To the poor waiters and waitresses out there, I know your plight, I used to be one too. Get a factory or retail job that pays at least minimum wage and don’t expect your customers to subsidize the salary your cheap boss won’t pay you. Things are as they are because you allow them to treat you like dirt.

Many people don’t tip, not because of the service, but because the food is often crap or the place dirty, or the music too loud or the darn place is cold and drafty or simply looks like a some kitsch nightmare from a bad 70s movie. So instead of giving you a 5% tip for your service out of the 15% you “expect” (ahheem) and insult you with this, people leave nada.

Remember, eating out has to be an experience on ALL counts, your service is a big part of it but certainly not all.

By: Rachael

Rachael — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 02:56:05 +0000

Dead on – I’m an Aussie too – and I noticed on a recent trip to the US (various large cities and smaller towns) that tipping was expected – regardless of good or bad service!

The service I got there was certainly no better for what I get “for free” at home – In fact some was down right CRAP and it was done with such a “fuck it – I can treat you like shit, but you have to tip me anyway” attitude…

By: keir

keir — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:53:48 +0000

As an aussie I just have to say I don’t get the whole tipping notion.

In this country 100 years ago minimum wage was set to a level that anybody could live of. You wouldn’t have a great life but you would survive.

Why can’t they just do this in the states? Sure you would pay more straight up for food but at least you wouldn’t have to worry about whether or not you had tipped enough